All these new officials that are coming in right now, they're coming in with the breed of all these young players. I remember the last two or three years that I refereed, Auston Matthews and
Connor McDavid, they never talked. They never, they never talked to me.
So these young players are just focused on winning. They're just focused on the game now. It changed a lot from guys like Mats Sundin and Daniel Alfredsson, those guys we had relationships with them, they wanted to talk to us.
But this new generation of players. Officiating is the last thing on their mind unless a call goes the wrong way.
They're not interested in forming a relationship with officials. You might be surprised to hear that, but that is Marner, Matthews, McDavid and Draisiatl. Very very little interaction with them on the ice.